i have a laney cub 12r, i need to do an electronic job on it to install those tubes? i mean like a bias or something

It depends on if your amp is self biasing or not.

How early or late does the distortion come in, can it be set fairly loud without distortion? What amplifier do you use them on< Thanks, GT

I have an Orange Tiny Terror that I have been re-tubing to get as much clean room as possible. I have gone much further on both the VOL & GAIN knobs & still get clean response. With the original tubes that came with my amp, I couldn't go beyond 9 or 10 o'clock on the GAIN knob before the distortion was so massive it became difficult to even hear the pitch. Now, I can easily have both VOL & GAIN around noon with only a touch of hair, which I want because I get all the overdrive coming off my pedalboard. Just don't forget that the pre-amp tubes will make a difference as well. I am using low gain pre-amp tubes & I'm getting much more room to play with before I get anywhere near distortion. I've had the GAIN set around noon & the VOL around 2 o'clock ( outdoors of course ) & still get fairly clean response from my amp. Hope this helps ! BTW, what amp are you using as that would help get the answer for specifically your amp.

How would you guys describe the sound? i'm thinking of putting them in my blues junior? my bj has jj i feel that the sound is to distorted

Before spending the cash on the Mullard EL84 tubes I have to ask do you know the distortion # of your JJs? I have some Groove Tubes EL84 S tubes which I have been told are VERY similar to JJ EL84 tubes and they have a Medium or Normal Distortion. The sound in my set up is so clear and warm. Nothing tinny sounding or dull like I had experienced with some generic EL84 tubes from China.Here are some definitions I found about distortion with the power tubes.Early Distortion (Groove Tubes - # 1-3) is best for a softer attack, and those who play a lot of rock and blues solos. Average Distortion (Groove Tubes - # 4-7) is great for your normal all around tone - for those who want some versatility in their sound. Late Distortion (Groove Tubes - # 8-10) is chosen for those who want their sound dynamic and clean - especially Jazz and Bass players..

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Q: How early or late does the distortion come in, can it be set fairly loud without distortion? What amplifier do you use them on< Thanks, GT

I have an Orange Tiny Terror that I have been re-tubing to get as much clean room as possible. I have gone much further on both the VOL & GAIN knobs & still get clean response. With the original tubes that came with my amp, I couldn't go beyond 9 or 10 o'clock on the GAIN knob before the distortion was so massive it became difficult to even hear the pitch. Now, I can easily have both VOL & GAIN around noon with only a touch of hair, which I want because I get all the overdrive coming off my pedalboard. Just don't forget that the pre-amp tubes will make a difference as well. I am using low gain pre-amp tubes & I'm getting much more room to play with before I get anywhere near distortion. I've had the GAIN set around noon & the VOL around 2 o'clock ( outdoors of course ) & still get fairly clean response from my amp. Hope this helps ! BTW, what amp are you using as that would help get the answer for specifically your amp.

Q: How would you guys describe the sound? i'm thinking of putting them in my blues junior? my bj has jj i feel that the sound is to distorted

Before spending the cash on the Mullard EL84 tubes I have to ask do you know the distortion # of your JJs? I have some Groove Tubes EL84 S tubes which I have been told are VERY similar to JJ EL84 tubes and they have a Medium or Normal Distortion. The sound in my set up is so clear and warm. Nothing tinny sounding or dull like I had experienced with some generic EL84 tubes from China.Here are some definitions I found about distortion with the power tubes.Early Distortion (Groove Tubes - # 1-3) is best for a softer attack, and those who play a lot of rock and blues solos. Average Distortion (Groove Tubes - # 4-7) is great for your normal all around tone - for those who want some versatility in their sound. Late Distortion (Groove Tubes - # 8-10) is chosen for those who want their sound dynamic and clean - especially Jazz and Bass players..

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