Swiftpoint Z Gaming Mouse, 13 Programmable Buttons, 5 with Pressure Sensors, Analog Joystick Control for FPS Peeking and Flying, 12K DPI, OLED RGB MMO, Black

There are very few middle of the road reviews over this peripheral; it tends to be a love it or hate it device, and there is a fairly good reason for that; it has absolutely nothing to do with the device tho, it's all about the user. This device takes time & training to learn how to use properly. As an accomplished classical guitarist I can attest that positioning is king when doing multiple tasks with only one hand. You have to learn that positioning with this mouse or you will never fully utilize it's brilliant design an inventive features. In fact if you don't develop a very stringent position and method, you're likely going to make a mess out of everything; especially if you're playing a keystroke heavy, multi-faceted game such as Fortnite. The best (and only) positioning with the Z-mouse IMO, is with your hand fully rested and flat on the right and left clicks. By focusing on resting both fingers on the primary left and right clicks at all times, and being very conscious of how your hand is reacting when in gun battles or whatever intense action you're involved with you'll be able to better see the mistakes you're making. Most people generally and unconsciously pick their middle finger up, and off the right click when firing. This is a bad habit leading to slower reaction times in general. This happens because those fingers share a tendon, so you have to work hard and literally train them, to get them to work independently from each other. However; it's PARAMOUNT to being successful with this mouse. Your middle finger has to been flat and relaxed at all times because there are up to EIGHT different programmable functions on that one finger alone. That's impressive and should help you understand why hand positioning with this mouse is everything. This is how I began training my hand to work with the new mouse. If you haven't heard of Kovaak's aim trainer, it's a must-have for people that play FPS, or TPS games (shooters), and for ten bucks possibly the one of the best deals on a literal game changer that's ever existed, haha, couldn't resist the pun sorry! Or is that actually word play? Nonetheless I went into the aim trainer and easily set up a "Kovaaks' Aim Trianer" profile for the Z-mouse. I set it up so that every button became a trigger, or aka, left-click. This allowed me to constantly switch up & cycle thru whatever peripheral buttons I was using to fire with, and not only helped train my hand and muscle memory for the new movements, but it also helped me spot the weaker areas of my development, and even fine-tune the device better. Once you're able to truly control all digits independently, this mouse will begin to feel like an F'ing magic wand! So the moral of the story is; if you're not dedicated to put in the time, to not only learn the mouse, but to re-train your hand (you probably have some bad hand habits interfering with your play already) then this mouse is not for you. I'd suggest the G502 Proteus or something similar. Although all gamers should examine their hand positioning, because it's seriously important and is underwhelmingly covered by players and press alike. Unless you're ready to deal with serious arthritis in your hand before you even turn 40, I highly recommend focusing on hand positioning.. And it just makes sense the more you learn about it. Another probable reason for some of the lower reviews, is that the software is a bit tricky to learn. I'm fairly tech savvy, but I actually had to call customer support twice. They were very nice, and helpful. Still; there is next to zero information from the Swiftpoint about how to use and program the device. I still can't figure out why that is. A couple of simple five minute videos would do wonders for the community and any new players trying to figure out the ins and outs of this amazing machine. That's about all I can add to the conversation. I feel if you're a fairly dedicated gamer (playing a couple hours a day at least), who is open to continued development, & are disciplined enough do the muscle memory training that's essential to using this mouse to it's full extent; then this is the mouse for you! If you fall short of that metric, I definitely wouldn't say don't get the mouse, however; you should be fully aware of the difficulties you may face, & the amount of work it will take you to get there. But when you get there.... There is truly nothing like the Z-mouse and it can turn you into a master digital puppeteer, with seemingly full control of the digital world around you. Once I cracked that formula and troubleshot all my weak points, I can honestly say I never want to use another mouse ever again. It's just too efficient and smart, to go looking elsewhere for another mouse that's even close to the the standard set by Swiftpoint w/ the Z-mouse. I've already bought two of them, and the next time they go on-sale, I'm going to grab another. I don't want to risk not being able to purchase them, in the worst case scenario that SP is bought out by some big bruiser corporation, and the mouse is changed or becomes unavailable. So I clearly love the mouse if that wasn't already clear haha. If you relate to anything I've mentioned here, and want to take your game to the next level and feel you have the motivation to do what needs to be done; then I can't recommend Swiftpoint's Z-mouse more. It really is the mouse for masters, and can bring so much out of your game play that you may never knew existed. It's memorizing to watch a skilled player utilize the Z, and incredibly empowering once you crack that code for yourself. Well... I already gave the the code, you just have to make the purchase and do the work. Best of luck to all of you and I hope to see you on the battle field soon!

Had the mouse for about a month now and really enjoying it. Two of my extra keys arrived damaged but Swiftpoint's support team assisted with sending replacement pieces and everything is 100% now. Always nice to test the warranty and find that it's great. Comfort: My hands are on the smaller side and I do find the mouse is a bit big for me, coming from a Razer Naga Hex v2 (also have a Mamba, Naga Molten and Naga 2014). I need to change my grip to be full palm grip and adjust my hand a bit to reach all the keys well. This is most noticeable for me with the big finger-tip buttons getting accidently pressed instead of left or right click, but I really like how easily I can click them in games so I'm getting used to it and don't want to use the smaller buttons (so that's on me). Software: No issues so far, seems good. Linking to apps is very easy and simple-mode settings are quite quick to change. Expert mode can be confusing but it's the only way I could find to access some features and wanted to try as much as I could before reviewing. The default profile is pretty cool with things like copy, paste and many other windows commands on your mouse, quite nifty! All the buttons: I've used the Razer Naga Molten, Naga 2014, Naga Hex v2 for many years and struggled a lot to reach all the buttons comfortably. The Hex was my most recent one because the 7 thumb buttons were enough for most games and could be reached more easily than the 12 button grids. I currently have numbers 1-0 (10 buttons) bound to the Z which without using any deep clicks or tilt functionality, so plenty room to grow. Most buttons are easy to get to in combat, with the two pull triggers being the hardest, so they're bound to 9 and 0 for less-common commands. I really like having the buttons more spread out. Sensor: Works perfectly fine so far, playing at 5k DPI. Deep clicks: Currently only using it on my right click for a 'sniper' button (drops my DPI while holding it down), so far so good. It does take quite a bit of force, but you can set it to be at the level you need. Tilt: Really interesting to play around with. Managed to fly some planes in Battlefield to test it out. Bit of a learning curve to think of it like a model plane. It isn't supported in all games. Ones that need Xinput (xbox only) for example won't work right off the bat. They do suggest alternative programs for this. I tried x360ce for GTA V and got it to work. GTA unfortunately switches inputs between keyboard and gamepad constantly, and if it's on gamepad then some keyboard functions don't work well (had some weird issues in menus for a mission, for example). I'd say that's more on GTA, but something to note. Ghost Recon Wildlands had similar issues where I couldn't use my keyboard while flying with the mouse as a 'controller', which was a deal breaker for me. That is an old game though. I would like to try it in more games as I play them. Pivot: Soft needs you to be pressing another button to use this (unless you modify some files) which was uncomfortable for me, so I might make a 'flying' profile and modify the files when I try it again. Would I buy it again? Short answer: yes. Long answer: Let's not kid ourselves, that price tag is hefty. But where else would I find something with so much functionality or with so many buttons that aren't on the thumb. I wanted the best mouse I could get for my needs, and I think I can say I found it.

The problem with mice today is that they all have the same features bundled together in specific packages. If you want a gaming mouse, you often have to choose between certain features and sacrifice others you may have wanted. With the Swiftpoint Z, there is no compromise. You get extra buttons, complete freedom of key-mapping, and modular options that make sense. After you first get the mouse, it will take some time getting used to, as is the case with most mice. But, I found the transition easier than most as this one feels more thought out with buttons in logical places. They are not just stamped on the sides without even a thought of distinction in how they feel. You know when you push a button it is the button you wanted to push.Talking about pushing buttons, these buttons feel great, they are snappy and give good feedback, there are no miss clicks with this setup. As you progress, you might find you may want a button to do more than one function. They thought of that also with both the implementation of "deep clicks" and tilt sensors, you can get one button to do a multitude of different commands. As for the deep click function, my first concern was knowing how much I pressed the buttons, and they thought of that also. The vibration feature on the mouse is less a gimmick of haptic-feedback for games and more a direct feedback interface that you can configure to ensure you are hitting the level of deep press that you are after. with this system alone, I have my left fingertip button do a double left click to select a word, if I press it down to 30% it does a third left click selecting the entire paragraph or line, and lastly at 60 % it discards the left clicks and does a select all command via "ctrl + a." My right fingertip button is setup where the command isn't executed until released, allowing a group of commands to be performed here as well. If I just click, it will copy, if I press down to 30% it will paste, at 60% it deletes and finally if I accidentally over-click I set 100% to cancel all commands. each command finishes by telling the driver to ignore the previous level to ensure I do not do more than one command from the same click. All of these deep click functions are accompanied with a vibrate command to let me know I had hit the level I need to execute that command and each level deeper gives a stronger vibration. This goes into the next amazing feature that at first sight appears "gimmicky," the OLED display on the side. This becomes an amazing tool while first setting up your mouse as you can set it to display tilt angles and deep click forces so you can more fine tune your clicks based on your own preference. It can also display your current profile so you know what commands to expect from the buttons. And it offers another awesome option to display custom out put. Now if you really want, you can have it say some cheesy message, but its power comes from displaying the command it is performing so you can be sure your configuration worked. As for tilt, I use this sparingly still though I do absolutely love the feature. It is about becoming accustomed to the multi dimensional nature of this mouse. The tilt command can provide both digital and analogue outputs as well as become a modifier to change the commands on the buttons while tilted. This will at first become more of a hindrance until you get used to the tilt and become better at moving the somewhat heavy mouse without tilting it. Afterwards, it becomes the greatest tool to open new options to your fingertips for fast macros or if using ahk, designated hotkeys to run scripts , programs and advanced features on productivity apps.Though the app itself does not support opening opening other programs, through AHK, this can be accomplished with ease. The advanced tilt features through the flight stick adapter have not been utilized by me as I have not had a use for this yet so I cannot comment on full analogue support. Though the software appears to do so and the mouse does show up in the usb controllers window with analogue and button functions, so for those who want to use this as a joystick, all the features are there for that. With all this praise, you know there must be some downsides. Though this is true and they will be listed, none have them have detracted me from this mouse, just been at most a minor annoyance though your mileage may vary. First, the software. Though it is powerful and does allow a multitude of options and customization, it comes at the cost of user friendliness. The UI is not for the feint of heart, and what could take seconds in other manufacturers software sadly takes much longer in this software. This is because of the many options and key-binds in which can be applied to any button press. I love its layout, but also loath it when it comes to just assigning a simple key-press. I feel the developers need to add a simple UI and a toggle to switch between them. This being said, the most powerful part of this is that the software does not need to be running while using the mouse as long as the profile you want is saved on the mouse which is done by default. I currently have 16 profiles and am only using half of my on-board memory. This is because of some of the other advanced features which I won't get into. The weight though not the heaviest is still quite a bit more than the standard market. This alone would not have been a con to me as I switched from the Logitech G502 which is heavier. It is more because the grips aren't grippy and I find my hand in an awkward position when lifting the mouse sometimes. I am currently waiting on a package from Dragon Grips to make my own grips for the mouse. For this price I wish I did not have to spend that money on a customization that should have absolutely been incorporated in the base design of the mouse. This is the only reason I give this product 4 stars. Lastly on my list is not as much a con as it is the only sacrifice and therefore feature request I would like to see in possible newer iterations of this design. As I switched from a G502 and have used primarily Logitech mice there is one single feature that I miss, Infinite Scroll. I have incorporated a pseudo-infinite-scroll, but it is not the same as unlocking the mouse wheel and just giving it one big spin and stopping it when you reach where you want on extensively long web-pages. I added a form of this by creating a looping scroll press while a button is held, and then adding a faster feature by modifying the press with a tilt and looping a page up/down press to get a somewhat similar effect. Though I would very much have preferred to just have the feature built into the mouse as a mechanical switch instead like Logitech did. With all that being said, I have switched and am not looking back despairingly, but looking forward anxiously looking for the next binding to speed up my productivity. This mouse is nowhere near a gimmick in any market but "maybe" the RGB as I never have a use for that. High praise and a huge thank you to the team at Swiftpoint for making such an amazing peripheral and the people who backed them to make this happen. This truly is the mouse I have been looking for.

-Experience with the Z Backed this mouse on kickstarter. Received it and tried to get used to it, but seemed like too much at first. Put it away as I was too used to the Razer Naga. About a year ago my Naga (which I still love and ended up buying a Trinity) finally quit on me. I decided to give the Z another chance and learn not only the hardware, but the software as well. I play mostly Blizzard games (WoW, HotS, and Diablo). I found a great profile from the Swiftpoint forums to import for WoW and forced myself to get used to it. It sucked for a while. The layout is nothing like any MMO mouse on the market. After struggling to keep my groups alive (I play mainly healer/support) for a while, I finally trained myself to be comfortable with the Z. I now find the button layout to be superior to anything else on the market. I am still comfortable using the Naga Trinity 12 side button layout, but using other fingers to perform actions now just makes more sense. The software is another big selling point of the mouse. It seemed overwhelming at first, but it's actually very user-friendly. You can tell a lot of thought went into making it easy for people like me who only want to moderately tinker with controls, while still having options for those who want to go more in depth. Profiles are stored on the mouse as well which is nice, and are import/exportable to share with the community. I have different profiles I swap to when playing different games. -Mouse hardware The mouse feels very sturdy in my hand. It feels like a premium product. The included extra button caps are useful for various reasons and I've found myself swapping them from time to time when I need a different feel for a game or something. The included case is great for storing them so they don't get lost. The Z feels comfortable to me. I don't have overly large hands, so if it were a bit smaller I would be ok with that. As is though it's not so large I have any issues using it. I have no issues with the cord, but I've used a mouse bungee with all mice for years. The button layout is great once you get used to it, which does take some time. I find the sensor to be great and have no issues with it. I use the mouse on a XXL Glorious desk pad. I think the most groundbreaking feature of this mouse is the Deep Click functionality. Once you use it you wonder why nobody else has/is using this. It feels "right" if that makes sense. I use deep clicks in WoW for keybinds and don't ever recall any misclicks because of it. I'll admit I don't use the tilt functions much other than for the default ability to swap profiles. I attempted to use it as Shift/Ctrl modifier, but found myself tilting enough to enable them in hectic times on accident. I may go back in and play with it more later, but for now I'm happy without using the feature. The Oled screen on the mouse-this is a weird one for me. I mainly use it for swapping profiles. Someone else may have other uses, but that's about it for me. -Software Seems daunting, but is actually very easy to use. Stores enough profiles for me to use in a few different games. The ability to import/export profiles to/from the community for games or anything else really is great. -Price/performance $150 (at the time of writing) is probably too much for most people, and most people don't need this mouse. There are other quality mice on the market at various price points that will suit their needs. After using it myself (and buying a spare during a sale- yes I own 2)though, I think if you enjoy the same or similar games and you have the money, you should at least consider the Z. I feel it is a premium product that at $150 is a phenomenal value. -Final thoughts Overall I think this is a great mouse and worth the price if you would use the features. This is my favorite and most used mouse I own. I also own a Razer Naga Trinity and Roccat Leadr. If I could change one thing it would be to make a wireless version. Also maybe a tiny bit smaller. If that version were made, Swiftpoint couldn't take my money fast enough.

I don't use this mouse for gaming, I don't play videogames anymore. But. I do 3d modeling type work, and this mouse is INCREDIBLE for productivity. I've used just about every type of "8, 12, 16 button" mouse out there, and this mouse is SO much better than any of them. First of all, the buttons are spread out rather than being clustered under your thumb. Every button is very easily reachable and extremely well layed out and very clever in their design. The placement might look weird but as soon as you start pressing them, you realize it works with the natural movements of your hands, for example, just curling a finger back slightly or straightening it will activate the trigger. These subtle movements allow for muscle memory to develop similar to typing on a keyboard, rather than trying to feel for a tiny notch to figure out where you thumb is to press a key on other button mouses. There's also the "deep presses" this is something I originally thought would be a gimmick and I wouldn't use. But I was SO wrong. The deep presses are my absolute favorite part of this mouse, and I am sad that only 4 buttons have them. A quick example of how I use a deep press- in one program I use, I often copy and paste, but sometimes I need to copy and symmetrically paste, I can regular press and it will copy/paste, but a harder press will copy/symmetric paste. I was afraid the pressure sensitivity wouldn't have enough range, and that I'd accidentally deep press often, but the range is actually super large (and very customizable) and I basically never overpress when I don't mean to. I honestly wish all the buttons had the deep press. I really like the customizability too, but the software isn't user friendly. It's just.... pretty confusing. Then there is the tilt functionality. I only use the tilt functionality as modifiers. like, tilt to the right/left all the button have new functions. and it works fine, but I really wish there were just little toggle buttons on each side that did this. The Roccat Tyon has this and it works really, really great. I guess maybe for gaming or some other application the tilt would be good, but It's just like "eh" for me. I'd love to have two more front edge buttons on the right side and more deep press buttons, because I've got 25 functions mapped to it and I'm running out of buttons. but this is just nitpicks. This mouse is amazing, and there is nothing else like it. I've had it for over a year now and it's still going strong, great construction, feels solid, one side grip piece came unglued about 6 months in, but that's not too bad. I've already bought a backup and I'll probably buy another one so I don't run into another Logitech g13 situation. This mouse is really that good. Highly recommend.

First off, yes it’s expensive. I’ll admit when I ordered I fully expected to be returning it as I have with the plethora of gaming mice I’ve tried. However, within minutes of connecting I knew that wouldn’t be happening! I have large hands but relatively short fingers. I mostly play MMORPGs (FF:XIV & FF:XI) and my go to mouse has been the now defunct Corsair M95. The Corsair still works but I know it’s not going to last forever and have been on the hunt for a worthy successor for well over a year now. None of the current mice have from Corsair, Razor, & Logitech have the same quality or ergonomics. The Logitech did a decent job and fit nicely, but frankly it just tries to do too much and wound up being more confusing than helpful. None of the above were the case with this Swiftpoint mouse. The button layout is simply amazing! It’s got gobs of buttons but in the heat of a raid it’s always super easy to know precisely what button you are hitting. The deep click feature of four of the buttons is actually really sweet! For example, the left button is forward but keep pressing and you go from the normal run to a full on sprint. The button customizations are crazy handy too! I spent probably the first hour just playing around with the button caps to figure out what feels the best with my hand and way I grip the mouse. While I saw some people saying you have to use a claw grip to comfortably use this mouse my experience has been different. Yes, if using the extended keys for the middle row is certainly more becoming of a claw grip, but use the shorter ones and I find a palm grip works just as well. The only awkward motion with this is the pull back trigger, but I save that for motions I need in a pinch (with longer cool downs) but don’t want to run the risk of hitting on accident like Refresh. Now the tilt is something that I didn’t think would be helpful at all for me. However, I’ve found it to be moderately helpful in my application. I use these motions for cycling between targets mostly and the pull back/pickup mouse motion to quickly calling a mount. Again, these are just some examples of how I’ve found it to be super helpful for the way I use it for and is hopefully helpful as most reviews seem focused more on FPS style games. The only semi-negative thing I can say about it is the materials FEEL a little on the weak side. However, I’ve found the materials to hold up very well and the weak feeling is more a byproduct of lightweight materials used. Upon further reflection this makes more sense given it can be used freely in the air. After-all, if you were using it in the air to say fly a helicopter you wouldn’t want it to be heavy! In short, even at full retail price it’s worth the price of admission. Do yourself a favor and stop reading this review and buy it. You’ll thank me later.

Fantastic gaming mouse however unless you are planning on dedicating your time to programming the myriad of buttons to match specific games then a less expensive mouse might be a better choice. If you are a serious gamer and especially if you spend a lot of time playing the same game (or similar related games where the keys are basically the same from game to game) then this may be perfect for you. Unlike many gaming mice that have buttons that mimic pressing 1, 2, 3 on the keyboard when pushed, this mouse has a ton of different buttons that are individually programmed to include functions when the button is pressed, another function if the button is held, yet another if the button is released. On top of that the mouse itself becomes a tool with movement sensors that detect the mouse movements in the air. This allows the mouse to be used as a joystick and the tilting of the mouse in the air can be programmed to do even more functions. While this is great for a game such as World of Warcraft where you do repeated key commands throughout playing such as casting the same set of spells in battle after battle it is not as good if you switch games frequently. In that case you have to have multiple programmed themes, one per game type or you will be doing some really odd things trying to play a game. For example, press one of the buttons to cast a heal spell, hold it in to long cast then when you release it you stop casting and change weapons to your primary mace is great in that game but switch a game and hit the same button and all the sudden you are doing something totally unexpected as it tries to accomplish the same steps or key combinations but for the wrong game. Now instead of healing an ally and changing weapons maybe in this game it dumps your inventory on the ground and drops a hand grenade at your feet, all with one button press. LOL. Seriously though, there are numerous profiles available so you can program each for a different set of functions and can even add more profiles as needed. For a super serious gamer this is the best mouse you can get currently. For a casual gamer then the super functions of the mouse may be more than you need. It is definitely exceptional quality and durability as well as very comfortable to hold and use. It is just like buying the ultra-deluxe version of a vehicle so you get a ton of extras and functions and all the bells and whistles too. if you need that then absolutely get this mouse. If you are looking for a mouse to show off to others then absolutely get this mouse but if your games of choice are Solitaire or Plants and Zombies then you may find this has too much functionality and you will spend a lot of time reprogramming buttons. Overall this is the best mouse available but it is definitely designed with a specific clientele in mind.

I've messed with a few different gaming mice in the past, I'm not a hardcore gamer but I know what's what. I bought this mouse for the tilt feature, which works well. You can set the threshold in settings and find what works for you, I found the default setting a little too sensitive and moved it up. Sometimes I still activate it by mistake but it's usually user error as I play FPS games like I have 4 thumbs. On occasion the calibration gets a little wonky and it will offset to 0.5~0.7 when flat but the auto config usually sorts this out pretty quick and I have yet to determine if it's the mouse or if I let it rest on an uneven spot on my surface while not paying attention that causes it. Didn't really overthink the triggers and forefinger buttons when I bought this but really like them. I use the LMB for fire obviously so the halfway button is my breath hold which makes steadying my aim quickly before shooting very intuitive. I use the L/R trigger pulls for grenade and as the toggle for my melee weapon (which would be more relevant if I was actually good enough to ever melee kill people). I thought the top trigger down press buttons would be something I would hit on accident all the time so I set them to innocuous things like displaying round time but after using the mouse for a while I don't think that's an issue and I can't think of a single instance where I activated them without trying to. The extra mouse buttons are well placed, on some mice they seem to be oddly positioned and hard to distinguish in the heat of the moment. When I first got the mouse I had issues hitting the left front buttons on accident while firing but it's mostly stopped as I got more used to it. I could see people with short fingers possibly having issues hitting the front most button without shifting their hand as it is pretty far up there but IDK. Setting the mouse up is a little bit of an adventure, definitely not the easiest thing in the world but considering you only really need to do it once per game max not a deal breaker and you have tons of options. I'd definitely recommend this mouse for FPS games if it's in your budget and you are interested in the lean functionality. Couldn't find anything like it on the market and it's definitely a top of the line gaming mouse. Update: found issue that was causing calibration issues. My desk has a slight front to back lean so if I leave the mouse turned sideways with auto-recalibration turned on it zeros out to that then when I turn it back straight and start using it since I'm constantly moving it doesn't recalibrate sometimes. There is a small lcd display on the side of the mouse that you can set to show the current roll/pitch/yaw in the mouse settings so I recommend using that so you can easily see if it's calibrated correctly before you jump in a game in case you have a similar issue. Added an image of that feature.